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Post edited 12:44 pm – December 5, 2009 by FM2020

Now why would RevGenetics know my IP address? Because maxwatt, a navigator, gave it to him? I don't know. But an advertiser at Imminst has a posters IP address??

The same navigator said that NY Times science reporter, Nicholas Wade, who has had access to Dr. Sinclair for years, said that Wade thought Dr. Sinclair to be "somewhat of a clown." Maybe Wade did write or say that. but maxwatt never backed that up. You'd think that perhaps Mr. Wade and Dr. Sinclair may not be pleased if that was never said, right? Why hasn't maxwatt, the navigator ( who banned me) produced evidence of that? 

I never went off topic. The thread I started, "Why does Kurzweil take 100mg?" was moved to free speech! I went off topic on my own thread??

No, I am not associated with Longevinex, and that is obvious to anyone who has read my posts at ImmInst. RevGenetics hasn't been happy that I wrote that Dr. Sinclair told the treasurer of  that same forum that he took Longevinex for three years, but it is the public record. Dr. Sinclair also was advising Shaklee's Vivix blend, and that is also public record. 

I repeat it at Dr. Sinclair's forum, because at Imminst, a little game was played with maxwatt and Revgenetics [Anthony Loera] with respect to it.

But it looks like the same game isn't played at resforum.org.

What a shock. 

Postak, is of course, correct.

And he is not the only one at the ImmtInst to see what has transpired at the resveratrol forum   How else can one explain RevGentics cocky post in response to me: "he he he…." and conclude with "  (Ahh nuts, this whole little conversation will probably be moved as it doesn't contribute to the knowledge in this thread… just an apparent spat.)" In the past, the navigator would at times lock, move (to a place few read) or delete posts when a poster questioned what RevGenetics said.

Before I understood that there were games being played at that forum, I posted on the "500 Club" thread that I was surprised that at 300-400mg of Longevinex, I seemed to have greater stamina while biking hills. I certainly didn't expect that effect. I listed the brand because others have on that same thread, and Longevinex is a blend, not just 98% resveratrol. The navigator first said it must have been pacebo , athough I wondered why he didn't consider his own  seemingly vanshing arthiritis (he is in his 60s) wasn't a placebo effect as he took just resveratrol. Then he erased those comments from the "500 Club" despite being just like the rest — one person's response to resveratrol.

Anthony Loera would later make statements like "Didn't you say you are taking 300mg of resveratrol?" when I asked why Kurzweil was taking only 100mg, when he had already read that I was only at teh 300-400 range for a few weeks before dropping to 200mg then 100mg for all of 2009. Posters get annoyed when a vendor writes "Didn't you say "X"?" when the poster did not say "X"

RevGenetics has accused several posters who have posted about Longevinex as a sock pocket or shill. He's done it repeatedly on Dr. Sinclair's forum as well. (I've been accused of shilling for three companies!)

At the same time RevGenetics put up Dr. Sinclair's quote on dosage without explaining to "Adam23," who is a potential consumer that Dr. Sinclair had just clarified his "maximum 250mg" dose statement from the e-book that going over 250mg would be venturing into greater unknown territory. Wouldn't Adam23 and the rest reading want full information and not game playing?

And I haven't seen a statement from RevGenetics that maybe he should have told the whole story, and not write 1/3 of it in parallel with a neurosurgeon who really does recommend 250mg – 500mg.

Anthony. As a long time imminst visitor i can tell that you degraded the forum by your interference. It's never positive for a boards image to let it run by a resveratrol seller. It makes the content biased and the navigators in favour of the guy  with the money. It's a bad combination for such a forum, regardless of your integrity as a person. There is ALOT of "speculation-science" going on in the Res section of the imminst forum and alot of mud throwing here. Both not very beneficial for the forums image. I know alot of people who stopped reading the forum after it got sponsored by Revgenetics. Something changed 4sure. It has become a supplier outlet, which is a pity.

I hope the imminst staff will notice that the whole revgentics interference has a very negative impact on the forum and that they need to decide which course to follow, science or under the influence of commerce. Probably they choose the latter (more visitors, more funding, broader public)

I have no complaints about the products you sell.(quality assurance and such) I have ordered several times a little longer ago. No complaints either about your entrepreneurship, smart marketing, good site….But it's shame you let yourself end up in a spam war.

Post edited 10:33 am – December 2, 2009 by RevGenetics

FM2020, this is just the response I figured you would do from an online promoter and puppet for Longevinex which (as of 12/02/2009 when I last checked) …

1. Does not carry 250mg capsules that most consumers want, but only 100mg.
2. Consumer Labs has reported that you pay $1.00 for every 100mg when purchasing this product while others are much cheaper for the amount of resveratrol you get. (link: you will need to subscribe to consumer reports to view this page)
3. Has changed formulations multiple times without notification. This is not good for doctor's trying to maintain a proper diet history of patients, since changes in supplement formulations can change blood results as well. (If you check the ingredients used for the gene chiptest, you will see they did not use the current formulation that you buy even though people assume this from the marketing and promotion.)
4. Longevinex does not activate SIRT1 at all, according to Bill Sardi. (From his own press release). This begs the question: Why buy resveratrol from Longevinex if it can't activate SIRT1 that Dr. Sinclair and other world renowned scientists find it to be quite necessary in longevity and health studies? 
5. Uses Licaps capsule information on their website to say that the resveratrol is preserved 6x better, when they do not use Licaps capsules anymore. (This information came from Capsugel when I inquired about it and the chart is still shown on the website)
6. Bill Sardi takes more than one capsule himself, according to his old websites, yet advocates only 1 capsule for the consumer. (You can search the internet archive and find copies of his regimen on his old website http://www.archive.org/web/web.php).
7. The product is labeled as micronized, but cannot provide proof from an independent lab or more importantly state the particle size on his label like other micronized resveratrol products.

These are simple facts that have been discussed at Imminst.org and maybe the reason some folks at that board do not like the spam and repetitiveness of your posts advocating this product over and over, even after pointing you to posts showing you these facts.

Folks at the immint.org board are not your typical consumers my friend, they are swayed by facts not by marketing and spam.

So far you have spammed and polluted this thread and the following threads of discussion here on this forum as well:

http://www.resforum.org/index&…..or-cancer/

http://www.resforum.org/index&…..out-5mgkg/

It's pretty obvious this forum is not producing new information, and as folks can see … any post I make simply triggers the same canned spam responses from the FM2020, across threads… regardless of the topic at hand.

Dr. Sinclair, I have to say that your forum needs your attention.

Cheers

A

Agreed, there is an interest in synthetic product, but there have been no updates regarding Healthy lifespan, their website is up and similar to this site: the porch light is on but no one appears to be home. As for moderators and rules, yes they are needed. People are interested in Resveratrol, even though most of them dont care to post. I have gotten one PM here with product questions regarding what I take. Any one else please feel free to ask.