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TA-65 with resveratrol?

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11:19 am
December 15, 2009


RevGenetics

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Post edited 12:20 pm – December 15, 2009 by RevGenetics


Folks…

Just an FYI:
A Notice of Allowance has been granted for Geron's patent, here in the USA.

Since I just found out about this today and the patent has yet to be issued, I need to reassess Astral Fruit for my customers because of this news, as I never thought a product of nature would be able to be patented. Specially considering different formulations of astragalus has been used for years in various herbal meds, that could have easily (as a consequence) had this function of astragalus benefit the consumer. A new discovery for the effects of a astragalus extracts do not, in my opinion, constitute sufficient novelty for it's natural extracts to be patented. We have a unique formulation of our own as well that we believe falls clearly outside of the patent claims granted, however we must still consider what this patent means for nutraceuticals in general.

Dr. B, this sort of patent really bothers me, as it can likely mean other natural ingredients can be patented by big pharma. This is different than creating a new seed, molecule, or organism. This is patenting pre-existing natural products of nature.

In the meantime, excuse me while I go buy some Geron stock (and maybe you should too) while thinking about the future of Astral Fruit… It's possible we may consider a license from Geron to continue selling Astral Fruit, or simply discontinue selling this version of Astral Fruit altogether.

There is another material that is available after all, that we can consider.

As soon as Geron has an actual patent issued, we will stop selling Cycloastragenol to acknowledge the patent provided to Geron. We will then consider the future of Astral Fruit as a licensed product or as a product that uses different ingredients, that are still available.

For now… we will have a fire sale until we run out of product.

Cheers
A

9:37 am
December 12, 2009


Pat

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RevGenetics said:

Pat said:

If one is going to start the Patton program with TA-65, would resveratrol interfere with its mechanism? Wonder if anyone has had any experience incorporating resveratrol into their own Patton program.

Also, if there are more casual (translated:cheaper) true alternatives to TA-65, please feel free to suggest it.

Thankyou.


Hi Pat,


Yes there are cheaper alternatives. Try Astral Fruit-C from RevGenetics, it contains Cycloastragenol. If you did not know, Cycloastragenolwas tested by UCLA regarding maintaing telomere length. TA-65 is not tested by UCLA as far as I can tell.


As far as Resveratrol, avoid taking Astral Fruit (or any similar product) together with Resveratrol. You really need to take them at least 3-5 hours apart, I myself am taking switching them every week.

Initial tests from a labe in California that we supplied cycloastragenol and resveratrol to, appear to show one may work against the other, and they may need to be taken apart from each other.


Cheers

A


2:14 pm
December 11, 2009


RevGenetics

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Post edited 2:22 pm – December 11, 2009 by RevGenetics


Pat said:

If one is going to start the Patton program with TA-65, would resveratrol interfere with its mechanism? Wonder if anyone has had any experience incorporating resveratrol into their own Patton program.

Also, if there are more casual (translated:cheaper) true alternatives to TA-65, please feel free to suggest it.

Thankyou.


Hi Pat,


Yes there are cheaper alternatives. Try Astral Fruit-C from RevGenetics, it contains Cycloastragenol. If you did not know, Cycloastragenolwas tested by UCLA regarding maintaing telomere length. TA-65 is not tested by UCLA as far as I can tell.


As far as Resveratrol, avoid taking Astral Fruit (or any similar product) together with Resveratrol. You really need to take them at least 3-5 hours apart, I myself am taking switching them every week.

Initial tests from a labe in California that we supplied cycloastragenol and resveratrol to, appear to show one may work against the other, and they may need to be taken apart from each other.


Cheers

A

9:57 am
December 11, 2009


Pat

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If one is going to start the Patton program with TA-65, would resveratrol interfere with its mechanism? Wonder if anyone has had any experience incorporating resveratrol into their own Patton program.

Also, if there are more casual (translated:cheaper) true alternatives to TA-65, please feel free to suggest it.

Thankyou.

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